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Tuesday, December 25, 2012


Simmons' Arriving
Josh, DeAnna, & baby Blake
Karen, Bob, Kim, & Scott
Kelly, R G, and Mom
R G Gray III
Nick, Scott II, Steven, & Phillip
Aly, Tim, Karen, & Nick
Pa & Aly
Scott & R G
Scott II, DeAnna, & Josh
Scott II reading Luke chapter 2
Opening presents
Jenny, Karen, Kelly, & Mom

All of our family were at our home for Christmas 2012 with the exception of our grandson Joe Simmons and his wife Liz.    They were at Liz's parents in Corpus Christi, TX.

Scottie Gray II read the Christmas story out of Luke chapter 2.   We had plenty of sweets for the sweet and I am sure all had a great time and were fatter after they left.

Josh and DeAnna (Bob and Kelly's daughter) are expecting their first child the first of March, 2013.  This will be our first great grand child and we are certainly looking forward to this one.

R G Gray III had to go to the hospital the day before due to a large boil that had to be removed, treated, and packed.  He seemed fine. He is such a blessing to not only our family, but to our church family as well.

I trust your 2012 Christmas was a wonderful time for your family.   My mother went home to be with the LORD on Christmas day 2010.  I can never go through a Christmas day without thinking of my dear mother.  Her mother also went home to be with the LORD on Christmas day 1981.  Thank God for a godly heritage.

Always remember Jesus is the reason for the season!  GOTTA LOVE THE OLD TIME RELIGION!

Saturday, December 22, 2012


Dr. Bob Gray Sr. family

Merry Christmas to you and your family.  The Gray's are extremely grateful for all of the blessings of 2012.   All made possible by the coming of God's Son to earth to bring full payment for salvation. We are thrilled with all of the souls this year who accepted Christ's death, burial, and resurrection as payment for their sins.  

Our family of four children, ten grandchildren, and one great grandchild to be born in March of 2013 have dedicated their lives to serving our LORD.  All of our family has given themselves to being personal soul winners.  

My dear wife and I are blessed because of their decision to serve Christ.  You never know until the children are away from home as to the depth of their Christianity.  The decision was theirs and they chose correctly.  Praise God for that!

III John 4, "I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth."

Saturday, December 15, 2012


Pastor Keith Bell
I will be flying out of Longview, TX, today onto DFW and then to San Antonio, TX.  I will be teaching and preaching for one of our TEXAS BAPTIST COLLEGE grads Pastor Keith Bell.    He founded this church and has one of the most exciting churches in the state.   If you are ever in San Antonio please do yourself a favor and visit TEXAS BAPTIST CHURCH.


If you will go to SOLVECHURCHPROBLEMS.COM you will be able to take advantage of our Christmas special on all books.  This includes "WHEN PRINCIPLE WAS KING" which is a must read.   These Biblical principles employed by Dr. Jack Hyles are still viable today.  

I trust you will visit our web site and take advantage of our specials.  All monies go back into the printing of more books.   I have 3 books I need to put into print and your purchasing of books will help me to do so. 


Tuesday, December 11, 2012


I have been some what disturbed by some of the response to my recent article about Jack Schaap.  I noticed commonality among some of the comments.

1) Vulgar language
2) A naivety about leaders who violate the law
3) Avoiding church because of others
4) Blaming an entire group for the sins of a few
5) Saying this is none of any one elses' business
6) Only print the positive about someone even though they violate the law.


Please do not misunderstand what I am writing...I love Hyles-Anderson College and wish nothing but the best for her.  However, when Darrell Moore and others preach from the FBC pulpit that these are local church issues and no one has a right to say anything about the choices of FBC he is dead WRONG.   

As long as you send out HAC tour groups, as long as you send out HAC speakers to promote HAC, as long as you print advertisements extolling the virtues of HAC, and as long as you come after our children we have a RIGHT to be concerned about what goes on at FBC and who the next pastor will be.  

When the pastor Jack Schaap spoke and wrote that those who believed the King James Bible was preserved inspiration were "ignorant" I meet with our seniors along with their parents.  I told them I could no longer recommend HAC.  

Then multiple issues came to the surface about the belief system of the FBC pastor that was extremely alarming pastors who were then forced to stand up.  Do these pastors have a right?  ABSOLUTELY!  The answer is simple for FBC - SHUT DOWN HYLES-ANDERSON COLLEGE and we will never say another word.  Other wise "If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen!"   How about "THE BUCK STOPS HERE!"  I have other Scriptures also! Ha!


It seems my last article brought out the worst in some people.  I have often thought since the last Presidential election that our nation has crossed a line of liberalism from which we may never recover from.  I am also beginning to fear that fundamental independent Baptists have been overwhelmed with the liberal "FFF" and "Do-right blog" (female) mentality.   The  loose language and sexual innuendos are disgusting.


Dr. Hyles used to say, "Don't make decisions when your decision maker is broken."  Well, if that is true then it stands to reason we probably should not go to someone for counsel or advice when their decision maker is broken. Jack Schaap's decision maker is most definitely broken.

Think about it.  He chose to become involved in a prolonged sexual relationship with a 16 year-old girl.  Now tell me how "wise" that is and why I would want to seek his counsel or advice about anything AT THIS POINT.  This is foolish thinking!   Especially if you are a leader of God's people.


  • To the 16 year-old young lady
  • To her family
  • To his wife
  • To his parents
  • To his children
  • To FBC
  • To the cause of Christ
  • To my LORD and Saviour Jesus Christ

It was a warning to the rest of us.  We are foolish if we do not recognize responsibility to restore him while at the same time not being careless of how we are handling this situation.  I do not apologize for my position, but I do blame those who are defying Biblical wisdom and winking at what he did by...
  • Seeking his advice
  • Wanting his continued influence on them
  • Wanting his influence on their church or ministry
  • Showering him with adoration
  • Praising him publicly as some kind of great man who slipped
  • Pretending it was one sin that destroyed him
Please allow me to clarify what I did NOT say in my recent article.  I stand by every one of these things and no reasoned response has proven me wrong.
  • I DID say that no one should take advice for now from him
  • I DID say that he has forfeited his right to do certain things for an extended period of time
  • I DID NOT say that people should not communicate with him by encouraging him and letting him know they are praying for him
  • I DID NOT say he could not be restored
  • I DID say he could be restored.

Many have asked me when I believe Jack Schaap can or will be restored.  Here is my answer.

His restoration must be on several levels.   

  • First there is his relationship with God
  • Second there is the process of his restoration with his wife
  • Third there is restoration in his ministry with GOD


He can be restored in his fellowship and relationship with the LORD as soon as he confesses his sins to Him.  He does not have to tell you or me about it.  That is between Jack and God.  I trust he has done so.

I cannot nor will I judge whether or not he has done so.  Please remember that none of us at this point can know whether or not he has.  He was deceiving us when he was caught, so we do not yet know whether or not he is now sincere.  I take it at face value, but I will not say that I know for sure he is right with God. I do not know and neither do you. TIME WILL TELL!


His relationship with his wife...I am amazed at the selfishness, and foolishness that would cause people to seek advice from him while he needs to be focusing and attempting to fix his own marriage.   The first institution God  established was marriage and the home.  Forget the ministry and focus on the marriage should be the call of the day for Jack Schaap and those writing and contacting him in jail.

I have been a pastor for 33 years and in the ministry for 40 years.  I will tell you unequivocally Cindy Schaap is not alright, nor is their marriage fixed.  Please hear me out.  What Jack did created a deep wound in her heart and in their marriage which only time will heal.  

They are both broken people and some idiots are asking Jack to help them in their ministry.  How selfish can some people be?  You are enabling and encouraging a child molester who has a broken marriage to fix your ministry problem?

They need our love, our compassion, our prayers, but most of all our patience.  They do not need our admiration, adulations, worship, or adoration.  Jack and Cindy need to feel the hand of restoration lovingly being extended to them.  They need to be relieved of all influence they exert to any ministry.

These are NOT people ready to resume their "thrones" in the world of which they were once leaders.  I applaud FBC for relieving them both from their positions.  I applaud them for  relieving Jack as a result of forfeiting his right and I applaud them for relieving Cindy for she needs time to heal.  This takes priority over any ministering.  

I believe God can and will use Cindy in a wonderful way to be of aid to other ladies in days to come.  However, now is not the time.  She is hurting deeply. Mrs. Gray and I are praying for her daily and diligently.


This is confusing to me as to how foolish and selfish some people can be when it come to Jack Schaap.  He has NO BUSINESS having ANY influence on ANY of us at this point in time.  Call it whatever you want to call it, but you are dead wrong if you think otherwise.  

He can win souls in jail or prison.  He can minister to those same people. However, his priority is to FIX his marriage not to provide counsel concerning FBC  or any ministry.  I refuse to divert his attention from fixing his marriage even if I thought he was the wisest man on earth.

I WILL NOT allow his influence in my ministry in any way! I do not want to be a hindrance to his first two priorities of fixing his relationship with his God and his wife.  No pastor or church leader should allow him ANY influence on them.  

No child of God should be seeking "wisdom" on ANY matter at this point.  It is what it is! Let it go!   You my friend are hurting his ability to fix his relationship with his God and his wife.


The biggest surprise and befuddlement to me were the doctrinal heresy that went unnoticed, or in some cases defended.  Then add to that the sexual crime and to think ANYONE would follow such a man at this point is baffling.  It is beyond my comprehension for Jack Schaap is not fit to influence any of us at this point.  

Does that mean I think I am better than Jack Schaap.  Absolutely NOT!  But by the grace of God there we all would go! I am not better than a murderer on death row, a serial rapist with a life sentence, an atheist who hatefully denies the existence of God, or any other perverted piece of flesh on this planet.

However, I am not emailing or writing them for their advice! Nor, am I asking for counsel from Jack Schaap and God pity the ones who are so blinded to not realize his decision maker is broken along with his marriage.

Jack Schaap needs to hit bottom, lose his influence, have a prolonged time of brokenness for sins he has probably not even discovered.  He did not just accidentally one day have sex with a teenage girl.  It was a process!  Leave him alone to go through the process of coming clean with himself and then with God.


First of all, the men who are restoring him will report to his church and the rest of us the process he has gone through and inform us what God is doing and has done in his life.  The problem we all have here is NO ONE KNOWS who these men are IF there are any.  (Galatians 6:1)

Second, he has to renounce his heretical positions on...

  • The Lord's Supper
  • Tithing
  • John chapter 15
  • Possible devil possession of the saved
  • God's hatred of man
  • The insecurity of the Holy Ghost
  • The non-inspiration position on the King James Bible, etc.

Third, he will apologize and make right his personal attacks against a long list of men and women who stood against his heretical teachings.

Fourth, he will confess to FBC the errors he taught, ask forgiveness, and state the truth on these issues.

Fifth, he will confess to the filthy way he spoke to his staff and about people with vile language.


This is not just about a 16 year-old girl, although that is enough in and of itself.  It was about a culture of arrogance and heresy that permeated his entire being.  For those who attack me for this position, have at it.  You are wrong and you need to evaluate your own thinking and logic.  What I am writing is for the best of everyone including Jack Schaap.  

Stop believing it is OK because Jack says so or because you need to believe it is so.  It is a long way from being all right and all you are doing is prolonging it.  When he writes you and says, "I can't wait to tell my side of the story" he is not facing what he has done.

To those of you, whom I love, for whom I wrote my original article, you who are treating Jack like he is a man of wisdom and worthy to give advice or counsel.  STOP BEING SO FOOLISH!  Wake up!  

This is not some silly mistake he made.  This one of the most horrible falls of our life time.  It has damaged the cause of Christ beyond measure.  It has destroyed homes and split churches.  It is a mess that only God's Divine hand can repair.  

I am glad Jack has won a few souls to Christ in jail because there is no telling how many souls will burn in Hell because of his despicable actions that led to his incarceration.  Those of you who are still drinking his Kool Aid don't forget that fact.  The damage he brought to FBC, other churches, and to the cause of Christ far outweigh whatever good you think he did in his eleven years of pastoring.

I look for the restoration of Jack Schaap.  May it be thorough and complete.  May it bring honor to our LORD Jesus as Jack decreases and Christ increases.


Sunday, December 9, 2012


Sunday Morning
Yesterday I arrived at the Fort Wayne, IN, airport and was met by Jake Jackson.   Jake is one of the sons of Pastor Doug Jackson.  Pastor Jackson founded and pastors the THREE RIVERS BAPTIST CHURCH of Fort Wayne.   He will begin his 19th year of pastoring this great church.  God led Pastor Jackson to start this dear church after graduating from Hyles-Anderson College when Dr. Jack Hyles was pastor.   

I am thrilled at stories like this that exhibit the blessings from personal soul winning.  There are nearly 20,000 independent Baptist churches similar to this one around our great nation.  The enemies are there, but God promises that the gates of Hell will not prevail against a soul winning church. (Matthew 16:18) AMEN!  

No matter how many haters, (mostly female) with their lap tops, type out their weekly venom on the internet attempting to destroy God's work, independent Baptist churches still are flourishing.

The buildings were full and the spirit was exciting. 6 trusted Christ with 3 professions and 3 adult baptisms.  Person after person shared with me their story of how this church reached them with the Gospel.  My heart was warmed and encouraged.  

I have known Pastor Jackson and his family for nearly two decades.  He and his dear wife have experienced some major health problems, but their sons have stepped up to the plate and provided necessary leadership during these days.  This is similar to what Mrs. G and I have gone through with all of the surgeries.  I admire Pastor and Mrs. Jackson! If you are ever in the area please make plans to attend the THREE RIVERS BAPTIST CHURCH.


Psalm 37:24, "Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand."

Proverbs 24:16, "For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief."


1) Some fall because of what they do
2) Some fall because of what others do
3) Some falls are seen
4) Most falls are unseen


1) The just man does fall
2) The just man falls many times
3) The just man gets back up
4) The just man develops a habit of getting back up
5) The just man is perfected by both falling & getting back up
6) The just man does not blame others
7) The just man ends up on his feet

We go after the fallen and give them the Gospel.  We bring them to church.  We baptize them and teach them and help them to grow.   

Then one day they fall again.  If we are not careful we will lose patience, become upset, and even give up on them.  Always remember we are all just sinners saved by grace.  We are all trapped with our flesh. When we brought them in we did not know a thing about them, nor did we care.  We were excited about reaching them with the Gospel.

But, once they are in and we get to know them and trust them, if we are not careful we will become bitter at them, if they fall again.  We forgot that we are all sinners whether saved or unsaved.   Because some sin makes the front page of the paper does not make the rest of our secret sins any better in the sight of God.  Whether the sin is known by the congregation or not  known does not make our sin any less sin.

We reach the fallen to start the process.  We must keep reaching the fallen even after they are in church, in order for them to grow.  No one piece of flesh is better than another piece of flesh!

After preaching I came back to the motel and I was greeted by a young lady behind the desk.  She was not the one who was there when I left to go to Sunday school so I stopped to chat with her and to find out something about her.  She was very kind.  I gave her a church tract and began to talk to her about eternity.  She listened and made it clear she wanted to know how to go to Heaven when she died.  After explaining the Scriptures she sweetly bowed her head and prayed to Christ for salvation.  When I raised up  my head she was wiping tears away from her eyes.  She then thanked me for stopping to talk to her. WOW!  I wonder how many others are waiting for us to stop and take time to talk to them about eternity?


Saturday, December 8, 2012


I'm not sure about these early flights.  Here we go again at 2 in the morning.  Mrs. G had a rough night with her neck and so when I slipped out of the bed room she was already awake.   She asked for some coffee and to make it a little stronger than normal.  I wonder if she would notice a little shot of whiskey in it.  Ha! Just kidding!

I will be teaching and preaching for my long time friend Pastor Doug Jackson who pastors the THREE RIVERS BAPTIST CHURCH of Fort Wayne, IN.  His son Ben is working with him and they form a great team.  This is a church with a great spirit and an aggressive soul winning mind set.  I am looking forward to spending time with them.   



Saturday, December 1, 2012


It's 2 in the morning and I am getting ready to drive to Tyler to catch a flight to DFW and then on to Knoxville, TN, to preach for Pastor Robert Taylor.  He pastors the GRACE INDEPENDENT BAPTIST CHURCH of Chuckey, TN.   That's right you read it right "Chuckey."

This is my first time to be with this pastor and I am looking forward to teaching and preaching for him.  One of our missionary families the Andy Long family has family in this church.    Andy is in India doing survey work at the moment.


The surgeon told us Monday that Mrs. G. has a broken bone in her neck that will have to be removed.  She has had neck pain for many months and after a recent MRI they discovered the problem.  They will have to go into the neck from the front and remove the broken bone.  Then, they will have to place a metal plate for support.  She certainly has been through a lot of surgeries.   Please pray for her!  I will keep you updated.


I am hoping that by February or March of 2013 the 400 plus page hardback book will be coming off of the presses & available for sale.  I believe this book will do more to help young pastors to understand some of the tools in Dr. Jack Hyles' tool box of communication skills and help them to relate more effectively.  I never knew a man of God who could speak to a room of 5,000 plus people and every one felt he was speaking just to them.  

In the near future I will give folks  an opportunity to be apart of a pre-sale offer.  As the book is close to the printing stage I will let you know.