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Monday, June 29, 2015


50 years of marriage
43 Years of ministry

Mrs. Lee Ann Gray and Hubby
4 children
10 Grandchildren
3 Great grandsons

The question I am asked most as I travel are questions regarding the family. Never in our lifetime have the truths about the family been more important than now. The family is under attack from every direction. We are at a crossroads in our society, and pastors must lead the way in having a godly and principled home life. 

For three weeks Mrs. Gray and I will be sharing what we taught in our home and how we dealt with issues that affected our family. This free three week class could be life-changing, but certainly will be helpful to those who avail themselves of it. I hope you will join us.



Saturday, June 27, 2015


My Supreme Confidence in My Supreme God in Spite of this "Supreme" Court

Have you ever heard the saying, "It ain't over until the fat lady sings?" Well, I have some amazing news my dear troubles Christians. It ain't over until our Lord decides it is over. 

I have received so many notes from Christians who are troubled almost to the point of despair over yesterday's court ruling. While I am not happy with what those five individuals ruled (four dissented) I am far from discouraged about it. In fact I am energized. 
  • I am energized that God is in control.
  • I am energized that nothing happens that God does not allow.
  • I am energized that truth is still truth and a court cannot change that.
  • I am energized that I am saved and on my way to Heaven.
  • I am energized that we may be counted worthy suffer for His name.
  • I am energized that the Gospel still saves souls and I plan on sharing that Gospel with someone today.
  • I am energized that my name is written in Heaven
  • I am energized that I am blood bought and blood washed.
  • I am energized that no one can separate me from the love of God in Christ Jesus.
  • I am energized that I have been given the honor of serving Him for over 40 years.
  • I am energized for the victories won and those still to be won.
  • I am energized that I am still able to preach His Word.
  • I am energized that one day every knee shall bow and confess that He is Lord.
  • I am energized that God never changes, in spite of how we do.
  • I am energized that I am able to being to an old fashioned independent Baptist church that still preaches the truth.
  • I am energized that I know I am on the winning side.
You see, over these years this old preacher has seen what God can do. I have tried to be faithful, but God has always remained faithful. I did not wake up discouraged this morning. 
  • I woke up energized with the founding of Independent Baptist Online College that is being raised up to train another generation of preachers. 
  • I woke up energized with a goal of helping plant 5,000 churches in the next 10 years. 
  • I woke up energized by a conference call that Russell Anderson and I will be conducting this afternoon with dozens of my pastor friends. 
  • I woke up energized by more goals at almost 70 years of age than I had when I was 29, 30, 49, or 59.
  • I woke up energized by another new book I am writing on the ministry philosophies of my mentor, Dr. Jack Hyles.
My discouraged friend, stop wallowing in your sorrow and start working for your Savior. As Abraham of old did for Sodom, I plan to keep going to the Lord on behalf of this nation. I am not riding off into the sunset. I am going off to war. We need every soldier to gird their loins with the truth and stay in the battle. 

America is in trouble, but that means we must bear down even more on behalf of our nation. As the Lord said to Joshua, "Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest." That is my charge to all of us.

Friday, June 26, 2015


Hi, my name is Bob Gray, Sr. Please take time to visit Over 40 years ago as a married man with a family and a career I left everything and moved my family to Hammond, Indiana, to enroll in Hyles-Anderson College and to study under the ministry of a great man Dr. Jack Hyles as well as Hyles-Anderson College. In those early days of the college a large percentage of the students were older men like me, with families. 

Today most Bible colleges are filled with young people who are just out of high school. I believe that for them going away to college is a very important and a necessary part of their spiritual development. I support these colleges fully and encourage every young adult to choose and attend one of them with the counsel of their parents and pastor. This program is NOT designed for recent high-school graduates!

However there is a void today that no college is adequately filling. That void is providing an education to married men and women who cannot leave and go away, but who feel called to ministry. I have spoken to many pastors and in almost every case they have one or more such men in their churches. Some of these are men who were called, but never were able to go away to college. Some started but for whatever reason never finished. This will help those married men whom their pastor feels would not be in their best spiritual interest to go away to college.

God has placed it upon my heart and some other men to begin a college that would help to fill that void. Independent Baptist Online College is a college that is beginning in the fall of 2015 with a goal of training mature men for the gospel ministry under the leadership of their local church pastor. Now you can get a college degree and very soon earn your post graduate degrees through webinar classes taught by seasoned men who have not just learned their subject in a classroom, but lived it in the ministry. This education will be affordable and flexible. It will allow individuals to take classes to further their education or to obtain a college degree. All of this will be under the leadership of the local pastor who knows the student better than anyone. Your local pastor will have to recommend you for Independent Baptist Online College.

Thank you for taking time from your schedule to check us out here online. Take some time to see what we are offering and then prayerfully decide if Independent Baptist Online College is for you. We offer a very unique opportunity to start and finish or to finish something that perhaps you already had started. In any case God bless you. Oh, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Thursday, June 25, 2015




Sketch of Mom and grandchildren

2014 Thanksgiving at Karen's house

Grandson Joe, Liz, and son Clark were missing from the photo above. 
Missionaries to China

Granddaughter Meagan was away at College

Scott and his family were not in the picture


Friday, June 19, 2015


Why the Need for an Online College?
In the Fall of 1972 Hyles Anderson College became a reality. It was privilege for me to be a part of those early days and to graduate in 1976 with the first four year class of HAC. I was not a Christian High School or Homeschool graduate. I was a married man, with children who had already attended Michigan State University with an accounting and general business major. I had already begun a career with General Motors as an accountant. I was a layman in my local American Baptist church, but something happened to change all of that. I surrendered to full time service shortly after that I was exposed to two men, Dr. John R Rice and Dr. Jack Hyles. Their influence would change the direction of my entire life and family.
One day, my wife and I packed up our family and our belongings and moved to Hammond, Indiana, not only to enroll in Hyles Anderson College, but primarily to sit under the ministry of Dr. Jack Hyles. In those early days of the college the majority of students did not come from a Christian school or homeschool background and they were not eighteen or nineteen year olds. The majority were mature married men with families. In fact, in those days, it seems that churches all across this nation were producing preacher boys who were not really boys at all, but men with families and careers. My peers in college were men who had to work full time jobs not merely in order to pay for their college, but to support a family as well.
To be honest, if I was facing that same decision today, I doubt I would move my family to sit under another man’s ministry, not because they are not good men, but because they are not Jack Hyles. He was the draw to those us back then. It was like coming for a four year Pastor’s School degree. We wanted to study the man and his ministry.
There are many fine Independent Baptist colleges today, but there is a drastic difference from those early days at Hyles Anderson. Most of these colleges are populated by young people who graduated from Christian school or were Homeschooled. The number of married students has fallen to negligible numbers in most of them. In fact, many of these colleges are being fed by youth conferences. As a result it seems fewer and fewer mature married men are preparing for ministry. In fact, it seems to me that we are seeing fewer and fewer married men surrender to full time ministry in our churches because our emphasis has turned to the youth. Because these colleges are emphasizing youth they have also had to turn their attention from primarily providing a preparation ground for preachers to offering a wide variety of secular degrees for those who do not feel the call to full time service. As I look at the landscape of this nation I feel there is a void that has been left and that is what led me to my vision for to begin an Online College.
Announcing Independent Baptist Online College
Classes Beginning in the Fall of 2015
Here are some of the distinctives of Independent Baptist Online College.
  • It will be ministry oriented.
  • It will be taught by those with extensive experience in ministry. We will bring some amazing teachers to the classroom via the online format.
  • It will primarily be for mature and married men and will offer them excellent training without needing to move their families or quit their jobs.
  • It will place an emphasis on the local church pastor leading in the training of his lay preachers.
  • It will not be in competition with other independent Baptist colleges. We are not seeking to replace but to supplement.
  • It will be a place where men already in the ministry can further or perhaps finish their education.
  • It will be convenient but not easy. We will demand excellence and faithfulness from students.
  • It will be easily accessible and affordable. If a student cannot attend at the time it is given they will be able to take the course at another time.
  • It will be unapologetically fundamental, Baptist, unaccredited, and King James only.
  • It will allow us to avail ourselves of many great Christian leaders to teach courses without needing to leave their homes.
  • It will focus mainly on preparing men for building churches. Obviously we will allow others to take classes but the main focus will be on ministry training.
  • It will place an emphasis on the local pastor planting churches using his own preacher boys. Instruction will be made available not only for the students, but also for the sponsoring pastor.

Independent Baptist Online College will begin by offering a four year degree, with future plans of offering advanced degrees. All classes will be taught online and will offer students an opportunity for live or prerecorded classes.
To oversee the operation of the Independent Baptist Online College we have selected Dr. Jeffrey Smale as President. Dr. Smale has a passion for training preachers as well as experience as the College Administrator for Lone Star Baptist College in Mesquite, Texas. Dr. Smale has pastored for over twenty-five years and is currently the pastor of Victory Baptist Temple in Elyria, Ohio. He brings with him not only the experience of a seasoned pastor, but also a passion for training preachers.
Some may wonder why Dr. Russell Anderson and myself would start another Bible college when many dear preacher friends around the country operate good independent Baptist colleges. Please know that I strongly support these other colleges and do not want to be in competition with them. Instead I believe that Independent Baptist Online College will supplement and even compliment these other colleges.
Soon you will be able to go to and discover all that we have to offer. You will find that we are dedicated to preserve the principles of fundamentalism, independence, Baptist heritage and distinctives in a unique and up to date way.

Dr. Bob Gray, Sr & Dr. Russel Anderson


Steven Anderson Sermon On Bruce Jenner Just Honest Calvinism

Posted: June 19, 2015 in CalvinismSteven Anderson

Dr James Ach and J/A
Recently on the Dr. Drew Show, where the theme revolved around “transgenders” with James White as a guest, Dr. Drew began the show with a clip of Steven Anderson ranting about Bruce Jenner, praying that Jenner would die and go to hell. Of course, it’s not uncommon for liberal media personalities to use the most extreme examples of professing Christians to provoke an emotionally charged irrational response against the conservative Christian crowds that raise the most objections to issues such as homosexuality and transgenderism. Although, Dr Drew didn’t use Anderson any differently than James White uses Anderson to portray King James Only advocates.
Let us first say on behalf of all independent fundamental Baptists (IFB) of all stripes, that NONE of us recognize Steven Anderson as a bona fide fundamental Baptist. He has virtually nothing in common with any IFB denomination, and has been openly hostile of every IFB minister and ministry from Peter Ruckman, Bob Gray Sr., David Cloud, D.A. Waite, Jack Moorman, Phil Stringer, Jack Chick,  to Fellowship Tract League, William Grady, Sam Gipp, Lester Roloff et al , and that’s just about every known “leader” so-to-speak in modern fundamental “circles”. The above names have sharp disagreements with each other, but Anderson hates them ALL. Anderson is an anti-Semitic, hermeneutically challenged anomaly that in our opinion at DRC is on someone’s payroll to make Baptists look like complete idiots (above and beyond some of the dumb things we’ve done amongst ourselves). In fact, not only do we deny that Anderson is IFB but have a standing joke that Anderson is actually a closet Calvinist.
But, to save the day on the Drew show, James White of Alpha & Omega Ministries gives the Christian side of the transgender debate. Frankly, White did a fairly good job at keeping the topic on topic in light of the red herrings and strawmen being thrown at him from the stage (including an unnecessary pejorative jab by Dr. Drew, “That’s what the Duggars told their son” when White stated we need to listen to what God says about His creation), and given the hand he was dealt against the clearly stacked deck held by the house, he actually did manage to accurately describe the Christian perspective of God’s design and purpose for the male and female to a hostile crowd. I think he could have been a little more thorough, but in fairness, he probably got more chances to offer what he DID get to explain than the producers wanted to give him.
White made it quite clear that Steven Anderson’s brand of Christianity is not reflective of genuine orthodoxy. We agree, but this is where we have a contention with Calvinism. We don’t think honest Calvinists can be consistent with their theology when condemning people like Steven Anderson because their theology maintains the exact same sentiment.
Here’s a simple question we asked Calvinists on Twitter: Did Christ die for Bruce Jenner? Not one single Calvinist tried to answer that.
Calvinists have long held that God doesn’t love everybody. In The Sovereignty of God, A. W. Pink,  wrote, “God loves whom He chooses. He does not love everybody.”
In a written book-format debate with Dave Hunt, James White stated,
Surely it is part of modern evangelical tradition to say, ‘God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life,’ but providing a meaningful biblical basis for this assertion is significantly more difficult.”Debating Calvinism, p.265
White also made a near 2 hour video on John 3:16 in 2006 attempting to show that God doesn’t love everybody.
John Calvin wrote,  “It is incontestable that Christ came for the expiation of the sins of the whole world.” Calvin, Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God p.148. R.C. Sproul stated that, “The world for whom Christ died cannot mean the entire human family. It must refer to the universality of the elect”. Sproul, Chosen By God, pp 206-207.
There are not very many exceptions in Calvinism when it comes to the question of God’s love for all. Those who doattempt to make an exception (such as John MacArthur, “Does God Love Whom He Does Not Save?”) merely attempt to move the goal posts a little down the field by deferring to a different kind of love for the sinner than for the elect, but the outcome is still the same, God didn’t love the unelect enough to keep them out of hell so not even MacArthur can claim his views are any different than his compadres. (We’ve addressed the issue of different kinds of love, and Calvinists usage of “rain on the just and unjust” argument here).
Not only do most Calvinists concede that God does not love everyone, but the remaining consensus among them is that if He does not love everyone, and didn’t elect you, then He hates you!
James White writes about Romans 9:13, “No matter how one understands ‘Jacob have I love but Esau have I hated’ , this verse alone should be enough to refute such an errant view of God’s love.” Debating Calvinism, p.268 (emphasis added). Notice that White contrasts “hate” verses any opposing view as being an “errant view” that God would love all. James White also denies being a hyper-Calvinist (a denial that is defended by Phil Johnson), so this view can’t be blamed on “hyper Calvinism” (although we vehemently deny that there is any such thing. The eventual results of infra-,supra- or sub lapsarianism and their various modifications are all inconsistent and lead to exhaustive determinism and fatalism).
Paul Washer says that, ” ‘God hates the sin but loves the sinner’ looks good on the back of a t-shirt, but that’s not Biblical”. In fact, Washer even offers an erroneous interpretation of Psalm 5 as a contrast to the universal love taught in John 3:16.  John Piper dittoes this sentiment in “God loves the Sinner But Hates the Sin? July 30, 2013.
Now what Calvinists will normally do at this point after you’ve proven point after point, with quote after quote (and I do have many many more) of just what their trusted leaders have affirmed on these issues, is attempt to justify their position while ignoring the fact that just 5 minutes ago they were denying that any Calvinist ever held to these views.
But this all leads to one final conclusion…
Calvinists have no grounds on which to condemn Steven Anderson’s view of Bruce Jenner.
Calvinists have no grounds on which to condemn Steven Anderson’s view of Bruce Jenner. Calvinists have always freely condemned any person that does not bear the fruit of the Spirit as a person who is either unsaved or was never saved in the first place (which is still unsaved). In fact, White and JD Hall have said such about Ergun Caner and Peter Lumpkins and several other ministers in the SBC, and White has even hinted that anyone who rejects Calvinism is not a Christian (and Hall blatantly said so). Certainly if they can reserve that judgment on professing Christians, is there any doubt what the Calvinist view of Bruce Jenner is? White has confirmed on more than one occasion that homosexuality is a gospel issue (and we agree, though for different reasons which we’ve addressed in Westboro Baptist Calvinists). Thus the only alternative is that Bruce Jenner is clearly not one of the elect, and not predestinated for salvation, but is in fact, non elect.
Since Bruce Jenner isn’t elect, then God hates him. That’s the only consistent position a Calvinist can take on this matter. They can’t claim “Well we don’t know” because they’ve certainly said they DID know about many others who were/are professing Christians (White has even claimed that *I* am unsaved) . Therefore, there is no meaningful difference from the Calvinist theological position that God hates Bruce Jenner and has predestined him for hell, and Steven Anderson’s comments that he hates Bruce Jenner, and hopes he goes to hell. At least Anderson is honest about his views as wrong as they are. The views of Steven Anderson and the views of Calvinism as a whole are exactly the same when it comes to people like Bruce Jenner. In both views God hates the sinner and wants them to burn in hell. If there is a difference, it would merely be that God, according to Calvinism, reprobated Jenner before time, and Anderson is praying for God to hasten His judgment for it in time. Calvinism continues to maintain its credibility by being consistently rhetorically dishonest about what they believe.

See also Leighton Flowers, Did God Determine Homosexuality? For additional thoughts on how consistent Calvinism would actually blame God for Bruce Jenner’s condition. Although Leighton did not specifically mention Jenner, one can use the same logic that Leighton used and simply replace the terms “homosexual” with “transgender”. This comment will make more sense to you after you read his article.

Thursday, June 18, 2015


FALL OF 2015

Stay tuned for more details. In the coming weeks we will introduce to you one of the most exciting programs designed to prepare ministry candidates and families for the ministry. The technology is such that you and your instructor will have an online face to face class experience.

Sunday, June 14, 2015



The Architect of the Culture Driven Church

Rick Warren
(The architect)

Rick Warren has succeeded in doing what many evangelicals before him have failed to do. He has drawn our Baptist churches into evangelicalism and then into the “emerging church” drama. With his numerically large church attendance and his Baptist background and his conservative-sounding doctrine, he has introduced evangelical practices into what were once traditional Baptist churches.

Rick Warren criticizes Baptist churches clinging to “tradition” that does not take into account modern culture; like the tradition of Bible preaching as defined in 2 Timothy 3:16, “doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness.” Baptist Warrenites now use evangelical-style preaching that uplifts people without sweeping out the dirt from underneath their feet, preaching which professes righteousness without condemning sin. Preaching, which “reaches the people where they are,” without guiding them by the hand to where they ought to be.

Baptist evangelicals are forsaking the tradition of “Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught…” (Titus 1:9) Holding fast to the King James Bible, which has been handed down to us through the centuries from the Textus Receptus Greek text, and not forsaking God’s words for the new boys on the block, Wescott and Hort and Nestle and Aland and Black and Metzger, who have beguiled us with better manuscripts, which lay in dusty libraries, Vatican trash bins, and hidden caves, unused for centuries.

Baptist people are forsaking the tradition of godly, spiritual music that refreshes the soul without swaying the hips, as commanded by God in Ephesians 5:19, “Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and SPIRITUAL songs (apparently there are UNSPIRITUAL songs)singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord:”

Baptist people are forsaking the tradition of modest dress, as God commanded in 1 Timothy 2:9. Isaiah 47:3 teaches that it is a shame to be unclothed, and lack of clothing is associated in the Bible with bad music (Exodus 32:18-19, 25), drunkenness (Lamentations 4:21, Habakkuk 2:15), and prostitution (Ezekiel 16:36, 23:18, Revelation 17:16).

Yet, the preaching of dress standards is labeled by Warren, and now some Independent Baptists, as legalistic, as found on page 236 of THE PURPOSE DRIVEN CHURCH. Pastor Warren does not even understand basic Bible terminology. Legalism is adding works to faith to produce salvation. (Galatians chapters 2-3, Romans 9:32, Hebrews 6:1)

On the copyright page of his book, THE PURPOSE DRIVEN CHURCH, before you even arrive at the Table of Contents, you will find something on the copyright page. On that page Pastor Warren lists seven different “bibles” he quotes within the pages of his book. These include the New International Version, then New Revised Standard Version, New Century Version, J. B. Phillips, and The Message.  Interesting, Rick does quote several times from the King James Bible, but since it is not copyrighted, he did not have to receive any man’s permission to use it.

Baptist pastors, Rick Warren does not respect what your fathers stood for! On page 236, he refers to “isolationists” who “reject new translations of Scripture, current musical styles, and any attempt to modify man-made traditions…” Scriptures have already been mentioned in this article to support “man-made” tradition, despite the fact that Warren goes on to say that isolationists have a “list of what is permissible and what isn’t regarding issues that the Bible is silent on.” (Emphasis mine) Of course, it is entirely possible that his Bibles ARE silent on these issues, but the King James Bible is very clear.

On page 55, Warren accuses us old-fashioned Baptists of being dishonest by saying, “In contrast, churches that try to perpetuate the culture of the 1950’s usually deny their intent or they try to prove with proof-texts that they are doing it the way it was done in New Testament times.”

Well, excuse us for using the Bible as our guide! If I stand accused of preferring the 1950’s to the 2000’s, I will not be offended. In the 1950’s women still wore dresses, sodomites were still afraid to come out of their closets, and men still led their homes. Yes, we still prefer that era to today, when modestly-dressed women must make their own clothes, certain states (and Disney) recognize the “rights” of sodomite “couples,” and more than half of all marriages end in divorce – when the couple bothers to marry at all.

Of course my question is how in the world did Rick Warren fool so many Baptists, and especially our young ones?


Page 64 of his book reads, “Any church that is not obeying the Great Commission is failing its purpose, no matter what else it does.” Page 32 reads, “You measure the health or strength of a church by its sending capacity, not by its seating capacity.”

These standards could easily have been made from a Baptist pulpit. By these statements, however, he does not mean the confrontational, on the streets, one-on-one soul winning demonstrated in the Gospels and the book of Acts. Instead, he teaches the drawing of the “unchurched” into a “seeker service” designed specifically to win souls.

He accomplishes this not by door-to-door soul winning, but with advertising, surveys, seeking out what the people want, and community programs. He brings the “unchurched” in, then preaches the plan of salvation from the pulpit sandwiched in between a rock and roll show with Jesus’ name added.

Warren teaches not to pressure a man to receive Christ (page 304), despite the great Apostle Paul’s example, who “disputed with” and “persuaded” men in Acts 19:8. At the invitation, rather than bring sinners to the altar, he asks visitors to indicate on their visitor card whether, (A) they believed in Christ that day, (B) they had previously “committed their life to Christ,” (C) they were still thinking about it, or (D) they doubted they would ever receive Christ.

The use of a “seeker service” instead of one-on-one soul winning is man’s method, not God’s method. Even at the day of Pentecost, the thousands who heard the Gospel had not come to any service at all. Peter and the other Apostles took advantage of the crowds on the street during a Jewish feast day. They had no church building yet. In fact, in the Book of Acts, there is not one record of anyone being saved or even baptized in a church building.

It would be stretching the imagination to believe that 3,000 were baptized in the upper room.  More likely, in Acts 2, the Apostles baptized in one or more of the twelve public pools of Jerusalem.

In Acts 8, Philip preached and baptized in a city of Samaria, where no church existed yet. The Ethiopian Eunuch was baptized in an oasis in the desert in Acts 8:26-36. The Apostle Paul was baptized by Ananias in the house of a disciple named Judas in Acts 9:11-18.

Cornelius and his companions were baptized in Cornelius’ house in Acts chapter 10. Lydia and her household were baptized in a river in Acts 18:7-8.

Holding a seeker service to bring the “unchurched” to the church, then not inviting them to trust Christ as their Saviour and to be baptized immediately after salvation is not Scriptural. In the Book of Acts, those who were saved were baptized “the same day” (Acts 2:41) and “the same hour” (Acts 16:13). The non-confrontational, non-personal method of soul winning is not scriptural.

D. L. Moody once let a crowd go without pushing for a definite decision for Christ, and the next day scores of them died in the Chicago fire. Rick Warren’s salvation survey at the end of his seeker service lets sincere sinners slip out unsaved.


The book should be titled, THE CULTURE DRIVEN CHURCH, for that is its central theme.  The basic premise of the book is that the church should adapt itself to the culture of those whom they are attempting to reach with the Gospel.

Yet, the Bible says, “come out from among them, and be ye separate…” (2 Corinthians 6:17). Jesus was “separate from sinners.” (Hebrews 7:26). In fact, separation is not on the part of the saved, but the unsaved and unspiritual, who “separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.” (Jude 19). There is a definite division in the New Testament between the lives of believers and unbelievers, the spiritual, and the carnal. Anyone can be saved, but the saved are commanded to be separate from their carnal culture.

However, Pastor Warren makes such statements as: “One of my favorite movies is…” (page 28). “I intentionally dress down to match the mindset of those I’m trying to reach.” (Page 171) “There is no such thing as ‘Christian music’, only Christian lyrics.” (Page 282)

While it is true there is no verse in the Bible specifically mentioning some of these issues, since there were no movie theaters in Peter’s day, there are some definite Bible precepts which pastor Warren has on purpose overlooked.

“I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes…” (Psalm 101:3) “Abstain from all appearance of evil…” (1 Thessalonians 5:22) “Mine eye affecteth mine heart…” (Lamentations 3:51) “…he hearth cursing and bewrayeth it not.” (Proverbs 29:24) Did Pastor Warren stand up in the middle of a movie with cursing and denounce (bewray) the bad and vile language during a movie? I wouldn’t count on it!

Pastor Warren is bringing sinners out of the world into an environment that is no different from the world. He is like King Ahaz in 2 Kings 16, who saw an altar in a pagan temple in Damascus. He liked it so much, he had the priests in Jerusalem make one just like it. He then arranged the furniture of the temple around the Syrian altar. It was there that his priests performed sacrifices.

However, it did not stop there. The people continued to model their religion after the world, until they had become wholly pagan. Hezekiah, Ahaz’s son, had to remove the high places where the people worshipped instead of at the temple, and break the idols whom they worshipped instead of God.

Go ahead, Baptist Warrenites, rearrange the furniture of the temple; it’s your children who will abandon the temple. It is your children who will worship idols. It is the men of God of the next generation who will have to evangelize your children and grandchildren.

As the adults enjoy their rock and roll in the confines of their churches, the children will develop a taste for rock music, which they will fulfill in smoke-filled arenas. As parents dress down to go to church, their children will dress down even more to go to the mall or the beach.


Pastor Warren labels our churches as “traditionalists” unwilling to give up “man-made” traditions, clinging to a few “proof-texts,” and “isolationism” that is stuck in the “culture” of the 50’s. He then encourages our young men to mix and mingle with the world, and model the next generation’s churches after the “worldly lifestyles,” abandoning such ideas as confrontational soul winning, old-fashioned church music, and modest dress standards, and especially hard-hitting preaching.

Yes, he has a crowd. Yes, he is rich. Yes, by worldly standards he is successful. However, the main question is this, “Is he right?”

Warren and other evangelicals reach into our Baptist churches and entice our young people away because they have proven themselves incapable of producing their own young people who are spiritual and who would go into the ministry.

Although they talk much about “life application,” their encouraging messages uplift the spirit without touching the soul. They minister to spiritual junkies looking for a quick fix. Because this generation cannot “endure sound doctrine”, Rick Warren has become the teacher willing to tickle their ears. (2 Timothy 4:3-5) Much like Billy Graham, Warren will impact this generation, but leave no godly heritage for the children and will ruin the orchard. Warren has given birth to the EMERGING CHURCH movement, which is nothing more than the Jesus Freaks of the 60’s.

Pardon me, but give me a Dr. Jack Hyles, who produced a second-generation and a third-generation of Christians serving God. The real proof of a church is in succeeding generations. There is rarely a second-generation Warrenite. Their children develop a taste for the worldly lifestyle by which their own pastors have taught them to live.

A church ought to be a haven from the world, not an extension of it. Baptists are being fooled by Warren’s conservative-sounding doctrine while being influenced by his worldly philosophy and lifestyles. We are to work at bringing man up to God, and not bring God down to man in our churches. The local church must be a foretaste of Heaven and not a foretaste of the world.

Thursday, June 11, 2015



Colossians 4:18, “The salutation by the hand of me Paul. Remember my bonds. Grace be with you. Amen,”

II Timothy 1:2, “To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.”

Titus 1:4, “To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.”

II John 3, “Grace be with you, mercy and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Son of the Father, in truth and love.”

So often in the Scriptures you will find grace and mercy or mercy and grace being used together. Mercy and grace are not the same thing.

Amazing grace how sweet the sound

Wonderful the matchless grace of Jesus

Grace that is greater then all our sins

Mercy is God not giving us what we deserve. Grace is God giving us what we do not deserve. No place in the Bible do you find anyone who cries to God “Have grace on me!” However, over and over in the Bible you will find people crying out to God “Have mercy on me!”

What does it mean? Mercy is when God brings us back to where we were. Grace is when God give us bonuses and takes us above where we were.

Romans 5:20, “Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded grace did much more abound.”

Mercy brings you back to where you were and grace takes you beyond where you were. God does not send us to Hell and that is mercy. God does not bring us back to earth he takes us on to Heaven and that is grace.

We had an innocent body tainted by sin and we fell. God did not bring us back just to the body that was innocent in the Garden of Eden. God goes beyond that and gives us a perfect body like the body of Jesus Christ. Mercy would have given us a body like Adam and Eve possessed. Grace gives us a body like the body of Jesus has.

Mercy saves us from Hell. Grace takes us to Heaven. The thief on the cross-asked for mercy, “Remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.” Jesus’ answer was I’ll do better than that I’ll take you right now into Paradise with me!

John 3:14-16, “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”

We deserve Hell but if we trust Christ as our Saviour we can have mercy and miss Hell. Grace is not that which spares us from Hell for grace is that which takes us to Heaven.

John 5:24, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

I Peter 4:10, “As every man hath received the gift, even so minster the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.”

The word “manifold” is only used about six things in the Bible. “Manifold” defined as “all kinds.” That means there all kinds of grace that God give to us. Only six times is the word “manifold” placed in front of in the Bible.

·      Manifold sins (All kinds of sin)
·      Manifold works of God (All kinds of works)
·      Manifold temptations (All kinds of temptations)
·      Manifold wisdom of God (All kinds of wisdom)
·      Manifold mercies of God (All kinds of mercies)
·      Manifold grace of God (All kinds of grace)

There are many different forms of the grace of God. God has given to his children many things that we do not deserve. The manifold mercies of God means that God has NOT given us many things that we do deserve. The manifold grace of God then means there are all kinds of things we did not deserve that God gives us.

There are so many things that God does that takes us beyond where we are. Jesus died to give us more things than we lost.

Romans 5:21, “That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.”

Mercy says you will never have to go to Hell. Grace says you can go to Heaven. Where sin did abound grace did much more abound which means grace is all bonus. Mercy is the regular salary or pay. Jesus paid it all. Jesus died to give you mercy but now he comes along and says I’m going to take you beyond where you were.

Adam sins and Adam falls! Mercy brings Adam back to where he was while Grace takes Adam above where he was. Grace is a bunch of bonuses. God gave his children more than we deserve because we accepted Jesus’ payment for our sins.


Salvation is not just being saved from Hell. The word “salvation” simply means “salvage.” For my grace we are salvaged through faith. The mercies of God save you from Hell while your salvaged by the grace of God.

After the war C46’s and C47’s were converted into the DC3 airplane. That which was used for warfare was now salvaged and used for peacetime. Every Wednesday morning we put out our used newspapers and those papers are recycled or salvage. Not only did Jesus die to keep us from going to Hell, which is mercy, but also by his grace he makes us useable and useful. It is a shame some have only accepted the mercy of God.

One of God’s manifold graces is that he saves us or salvages us and makes us useable. Mercy saves us from Hell. Grace is where he salvages us to make a preacher, a choir director, a bus captain, a youth director, a piano player, a user, a bus director, a Sunday school teacher, or a choir member.

God’s mercy does not let you go to Hell and God salvages your soul and goes beyond just keeping you out of Hell. By God’s grace he salvages our lives and we end up co-laborers with God himself.

Will a person go to Hell who listens to bad music? No, but you’ll have to go to Hell to listen to it! Will a person go to Hell for going to Hollywood movies, smoking, or drinking? What kind of Christianity is that? There is so much more to salvation. The salvaging of the soul by God’s mercy is a whole lot more to it. God is salvaging you so you can be a co-laborer with God himself and that is grace.

God gives us a bonus and that bonus is I’m going to make you a co-laborer, a Sunday school teacher, a Sunday school Superintendent, a bus captain, an usher, a deacon, a choir member, a pianist, an organist, or a preacher.


Romans 3:24, “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.”

Titus 3:7, “That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”

By his mercy he has forgiven us of all our sins but he give us a bonus. He takes our sins off of our record and it looks like we have never sinned at all. His mercy says he will bring you back where you were but Adam was not justified until he trusted Christ as his personal Saviour and that is grace.

Grace did not deliver you from Hell but you go to Heaven by grace. You were not forgiven by grace but you were forgiven my mercy. You were not justified by mercy rather you were justified by grace.


Ephesians 1:6, “To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.”

Mercy brings me back into God’s presence. Grace takes me beyond that into the “beloved.” Mercy brings us back to God. Grace takes us above that and puts in God.

Do we have any idea of whom we are speaking to when we pray? He is the creator of the universe, Jehovah God, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient! The God who made Dr. Lee Roberson, Dr. Jack Hyles, D. L. Moody, Spurgeon, John Rice, etc. The same God says you can have permanent access to his presence. You are by his grace in the beloved.

God could have just as easily saved you from Hell and let you flounder through life but God said not only am I going to save you from Hell by my mercy but also I’m going to by grace put you in the beloved with constant access to me!


Hebrews 4:16, “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to helping time of need.”

If the Queen of England called you and asked you to come to Buckingham Palace you would be awed for sure by the invitation. The king of the universe, God of gods, Jehovah God, the lily of the valley, the fairest of 10,000, the bright and morning star, and the God who sustains the whole universe is accessible because of his grace.


God could have saved you from Hell and never have been compelled to give you a copy of the Scriptures his Holy Word. God did not have to give you his words. You and I could have been saved from going to Hell and left without any instructions for life.

God said by his mercy he would keep you from going to Hell but by his grace he gives you something you did not have his Bible of instructions for life. The Bible is a bonus and this is grace. Jesus did more than die to buy back all that Adam lost.

·      God’s grace salvaged us
·      God’s grace justified us
·      God’s grace made us the accepted of the beloved
·      God’s grace gave us prayer
·      God’s grace gave us his Bible

God’s children ought to shout because God did not give us what we deserved and because God gave us what we did not deserve! Mercy and grace!


Ephesians 2:7, “That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.”

Here we were on our way to Hell and God wants to save us from Hell and that is mercy. God extends his mercy and man accepts the mercy of God. He then gives us grace or bonuses.

God has perennial eternal bonuses to give us. God has given us his word by grace, prayer by grace, to be apart of the beloved by grace, justification by grace, and salvaging by grace. God also says forever I will eternally be giving you surprise packages of bonuses of things I did not have to give you! Manifold grace of God!


Ephesians 2:8-10, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”

Adam was saved from going to Hell and that was mercy. God says to Adam, “You have fallen because of sin. I died to get you back and that was mercy. Adam helps me tell other fallen men of my mercy!” That is grace! God gives the redeemed a bonus of helping him win souls to him. That is God’s grace to us!

God does not need us to spread the Gospel. God through his grace has given us the bonus of soul winning.

II Corinthians 5:18, “And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation.”

Thank God we who are saved are not going to Hell and that is mercy but thank God we can keep others out of Hell by soul winning and that is grace!


I Corinthians 12:7, “But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.”

Galatians 1:15, “But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace.”

The purpose of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is to have the local church work as unit to get the Gospel to the unsaved. Someone has to be the pastor, fix the buses, usher, play the piano, play the organ, cut the grass, lead the youth, teach Sunday school, sing in the choir, work the altar, type the letters, or be the bookkeeper.

God did not have to do one single thing listed. God would still be right and righteous if he had never given us his mercy let alone his grace. He keeps us out of when he did not have to and that is mercy.

All ten of the things listed have nothing to do with going to Hell. These are the manifold grace of God.


II Corinthians 12:9, “And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.”

Mercy keeps us from going to Hell. Grace gives us something extra and that is help with our burdens.


I Corinthians 15:10, “But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.”

All of us deserve to burn in Hell forever and if all that God did was keep us out of Hell by his mercy that would be more than we deserve. However, God loves us and he enjoys giving to us things we do not deserve to have.

When you love you give and when you love you keep on giving. Jesus did not die to give you the Bible. He died to keep you out of Hell. God could have stopped with mercy! God loves us so much that he gives us bonuses and continues to give us bonuses for eternity.